Sunday, July 08, 2007

Anonymous

Posted as a comment to my previous post:
anonymous said...
"The Enemy Within" - Rabi (sic) Twerski -
Those who believe have no questions and for those who don't believe there are no answers!!


If you believe so strongly in beliefs, what do you think of a little boy born to Muslim fascists and grows up believing he should kill people? If there is something wrong with his beliefs that his parents taught him, maybe there's something wrong with your beliefs that your parents taught you. ( "Ah, but my beliefs are true...") And if there is nothing wrong with his beliefs of blowing people up, then I don't want to have anything to do with something so destructive as belief. Not even your so innocently *true* ones.

The problem, as I see it, is that you're reading Rabbi Twerski before reading more fundamental works, such as the Tanya. If you would flip it open to chapter 18 you would come to understand the Jewish definition of belief, and then maybe you wouldn't be so prone to take Rabbi Twerski's words so grossly out of context.

Belief, or Faith, according to Judaism, is discovering one's-self. If you apply this principle to the subject at hand, you will find that Faith will actually substantiate my view, as was mentioned in another comment, that the "depth (core) of a Chassid is Rebbe." A Chassid who believes, i.e. discovers his core, has found the Rebbe.

In this light, allow me to quote from Rabbi Twerski (albeit out of context): "Those who believe have no questions and for those who don't believe there are no answers."

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think you are using the wrong words. "Belief, or Faith, according to Judaism is discovering one's-self." But that's not what belief, of faith mean.

Maybe Judaism uses a different word?

Things can become very confusing when we're not speaking in the same language.

Xalman said...

Even in light of your comment, I maintain my position.

According to Chassidus, discovering, and knowing, one's-self is both the method to reach, and the definition of, Faith.

It occurs to me that it would be appropriate to reference Ve'atah Tetzaveh 5749, which discusses this principle at length.

Anonymous said...

5749? Never heard of that one yet.
The veata tetzaveh that i know tells us that we all have emunah. It doesn't say that we have to go look for it. It actually says that the job of a Rebbe is to reveal that emunah.
It discusses different levels of emunah and the diffrent ways they can be revealed.
One is by realizing that truth hurts. The truth that we are still in golus. Not because we are lacking something but because the shchina is in golus.

Not by deciding that your purpose in life is to find yourself or to discover that you are now a Rebbe.
For that we have psychologists.

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Xalman said...

Indeed, the year would be 5752. Thank you for pointing that out.

I see you may have missed chapter 5, which discusses the source of a Jew's faith being the core of his soul. That's what I was referring to.

As for the reason you give for why we should feel hurt in golus, what the Rebbe explains is how Jews feel hurt that we cannot perceive G-dliness on the same level as in the times of the Beis Hamikdash.
In addition, this realization and level of consciousness is not revealed by the Rebbe, as explained in chapter 11, rather it is attained through our own efforts (after the initial "boost" we receive).

How this discussion is relevant to the subject at hand, I don't know.